ARBs anti roll bar removal

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bondy007700
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Has any one removed their anti roll bars at all? I've noticed that they do restrict my suspension a lot when I've worked on it so questioned removing them for better articulation.

If you have did it make a difference on road and offroading?

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Don't do it.

If the vehicle sees any on-road or highway use - don't remove it.

Yes, they do restrict articulation, but they were fitted for a reason - to reduce body roll and sway - by using a sway bar, the design engineers can use a lighter spring and allow a "softer" ride - removing the bar will create a situation which allows excessive body roll, and also increases the potential for loss of control at highway speeds.

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i was looking at maybe making

i was looking at maybe making them quick and easy to disconnect if i was going to gain alot off road

i realise they improve the ride on road no end

 

cheers for the imput 

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try it

bondy007700 wrote:

i was looking at maybe making them quick and easy to disconnect if i was going to gain alot off road

i realise they improve the ride on road no end

 

cheers for the imput 

 

I removed mine from my Jimny and it made no difference to the on road handling at all. I won't remove my Junior's because of the MoT in the UK.

Work in progress on my just acquired delapidated  2003 Vivo 11 Junior in need of TLC    

Do it right, use Hammerite.

Why simpify when it is simpler to complicate.

 

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Sway bar

Yes it will give you better articulation but I wouldn't do it for 2 reasons. The  shock, spring and the sway bar work together, if you have one not properly working, you will end up with poorer handling. If you fit heavier spring then maybe you can remove it as you did improve another suspension bits. And the main limitation on the io is not the sway bar but the angle of the CV and lower ball joint can work before getting damaged.

All this said, I haven't tried...

Happy io

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sway bar should stay on

Claude io wrote:

Yes it will give you better articulation but I wouldn't do it for 2 reasons. The  shock, spring and the sway bar work together, if you have one not properly working, you will end up with poorer handling. If you fit heavier spring then maybe you can remove it as you did improve another suspension bits. And the main limitation on the io is not the sway bar but the angle of the CV and lower ball joint can work before getting damaged.

All this said, I haven't tried...

Happy io

as above i wouldn't remove without much stiffer harder springs going in (and then you'd loose flex)

I have broken a sway bar link driving home once and the car was fcking dangerous above 60kmh on corners, the rear 4-link was tucking in from the severe body roll and giving me chronicrear-wheel steering in a very NOT good way.

if you want to offroad with it off maybe look at having a 14mm socket in the glovebox and popping one end off once you hit the tracks - i will be doing this with my rear sway bar once fitted

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Yea i didn't want them off

Yea i didn't want them off when on road just when i was off. Will have a look at options and perhaps give it a go. Anyone have a recommendation on springs to upgrade to?

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I'm highlighting this because I want you to see it.

bob_oz wrote:
i will be doing this with my rear sway bar once fitted

Bob's car is one of the early production models that shipped from the factory with just the front sway bar, he has spent time & money hunting down and importing a rear sway bar - he understands why it's needed.

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Yea thanks. I realise why you

Yea thanks. I realise why you need the sway bars but i realise they also hinder axel articulation so i was after some opinions of someone that may have done it. Seems not many have. I'm yet to really test my pinin with them on in all honesty, hopefully this Sunday I'll get the chance to.

Thanks for the info

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sway bars

bondy007700 wrote:
Yea thanks. I realise why you need the sway bars but i realise they also hinder axel articulation so i was after some opinions of someone that may have done it. Seems not many have. I'm yet to really test my pinin with them on in all honesty, hopefully this Sunday I'll get the chance to. Thanks for the info

frankly the rear could be removed as long as you're not traveling autobahn speeds (70miles/h+) but the front i'd pull off for off-road only.

it's the rear that articulates the best anyway - the front is adequate but they perform very very well with a mild lift, high pan struts and 225-75/16 tyres :)

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Front Sway Bar/Anti Roll

In saying all this for the better or worse there was a period I was driving 100km/ph to and from work for half an hour with a broken front sway bar link for months while I was souricng a replacement. Only thing that I noticed was the other one squeaking . Mine is a 5dr however maybe for the 3drs it is more important. I understand it's there for a reason and I'm probably lucky I didn't have to do any high speed emergency maneuvering but it's by no way undriveable on the asphalt without a front sway bar. 

Edit - I also have no rear sway bar due to being a 2002 Australian MPI release IO

2002 5dr Pajero IO QA 2.0L Auto - Lifted, Locked!! 1.925 Low Range - Muddies (205/80/16) - Redback Extractors to 200cell cat to dump at diff Exhaust 

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front sway bar

simmo777 wrote:

In saying all this for the better or worse there was a period I was driving 100km/ph to and from work for half an hour with a broken front sway bar link for months while I was souricng a replacement. Only thing that I noticed was the other one squeaking . Mine is a 5dr however maybe for the 3drs it is more important. I understand it's there for a reason and I'm probably lucky I didn't have to do any high speed emergency maneuvering but it's by no way undriveable on the asphalt without a front sway bar. 

Edit - I also have no rear sway bar due to being a 2002 Australian MPI release IO

don't forget you are running kings hard front and rear springs, much stiffer than stock,
I'm running 1.6L old long springs in the front and astina's in the back and they are very flexible

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